Mounting Issues

I rarely use a hanging wire for my own stuff. When I used to hang for clients for the frame shops the easiest I found was simple sawtooth hangers. On large pieces, I use two but you have to be able to get them even when you put the nail in the wall.

For heavier stuff, I always figure out how to hang things flat against the wall. There are dozens of hanging systems out there.

You can use Google and find something that works for you.

I can't really control what system is used because pixels/FAA sends art directly to the customer from their wharehouse when the customer orders it. I agree on the saw tooth system.

I don't think it is realistic to expect the average buyer to use a system that takes two hangers and where they have to get two nails in the wall at the exact same height so the piece hangs even.

The wire is the best solution for the average buyer that is expected to hang his own art, imho.

What is that picture of? The back of a framed piece? What size, looks like it maybe a metal print?
I'm confused over what I looking at.

The picture I posted is an example of the more secure mounting systems I am talking about- specifically metal rails. There are many options out there that are much more secure than a hanging wire, which so easily leans forward off of the wall. WhiteWall, for example, is the top printer in the world (based in Germany) and does not use wire hangers at all. I have used them prior to Pixels but they are pricey and I cannot expect the casual customer to pay their prices. If you go to their website (https://www.whitewall.com/us) , I would recommend looking at how they mount their products and it is genius. The result is incredibly professional and perfectly mounted art flush with the wall. I would disagree that the average consumer would find it too difficult to place two nails in the wall at the same height. All you need is a ruler and a pencil. My parents are quite old (sorry dad) and they have no issue figuring it out. The result is much more attractive then the hanging wire, which is outdated now at this point.

The wire is not going anywhere... IMHO.

I realize it is a classic/traditional way of hanging and I agree it will never disappear, but for major printing companies such as WhiteWall, as well as people like myself looking to mass market their art into a scalable business, it seems wire is seen less and less. All the companies like Society6, Redbubble, etc. have gotten rid of the wire. There has to be a reason for this. I guess wires are more suited to artists not interested in mass marketing and are fine with keeping the pace of only making originals and selling for larger amounts of money, as opposed to my model of cheaper prints at higher quantity.

If both Society 6 and Rebubble have stopped using wire, then they need to update their webpage. Both are still showing they used wire on framed and matted prints.

Not sure how selling on either one of them differs from selling on FFA in regard to "my model of cheaper prints at higher quantity."?

I don't think either one or any other POD is really selling any higher quality (or less for that matter) then FAA.

I don't understand why this has become such an intense argument here. It really is irrelevant. It's fine that you disagree and think that wire is the best way. It just seems obvious to me when all my wired art leans off the wall in a very ugly manner, while all other mounting systems lean perfectly flush against my wall. This conversation has become really pointless. We just disagree on the most useful and functional mounting systems. I don't really care to continue this. Please don't respond with another way that I am wrong, etc. Let's just agree to disagree, otherwise we should close this conversation.

You posted false information for one thing.

"All the companies like Society6, Redbubble, etc. have gotten rid of the wire. "

That is just flat not true...

I never disagreed, in fact I do agree that flat against the wall is a better way to hang almost anything.

You invited a discussion on the topic. "I think a conversation needs to be started on updating the mounting to a more modern and effective method. Any thoughts?"

I don't agree that FAA needs to change from the wire hanger for the reasons I gave. So you get all bent out of shape because I don't agree with you.

Then you posted false information to support your postirion.

Yeah, I agree... close the thread...

Guys.

Stop arguing

Talk about different methods of hanging

Do NOT talk about other sites here at all. It's against the rules of our forum!!